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good luck with that.
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More info please, Nick is a friend of mine and wan't tozerofield said:
see him make the right decision. From what I've seen
and read over the last year or so most kits have some issue
or another. I know some are better than others but has
anyone here had a bad experience or know someone who
has with the DFR kit. I myself had an issue with my LTR
kit with an axle breaking but since axles have been switched at no charge to 300m all is good.
Well that sucks, The DFR kit that was explained to me today is suppose to be there new 6" kit which they have been testing since November and just recently released. We will see, I will post my thoughts on it after Presidents Day Weekend Oh Yeah!!!!!!
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Every kit available has had issues with axles due to the limitations of the Rhino, this is common knowledge. With correct geometry, 930 CV clips, limit straps, & no dust shields we have seen the best results. One of the biggest problems we have seen is when the clips are distorted during installation, when this happens we usually see clip damage. We are working on a permanent fix to this problem.
with over 150 3.5" long travel kits in the last year and a half, and 25-30 6" kits recently we have had some axle issues. But just think of the suspension capabilities of LSR, SoCal, RMafia, RCraft, others, and us. To my knowledge we have all had issues. There is alot to be said about installation methods, how these cars are driven, and the differences in Rhinos that are causing the gremlins to pop up.
I can say that we are always here to offer as much help as possible with problems when and if they occur. My 6" kit(#2 production kit)worked perfect, but it was set up correctly, blew my head gasket though. Part of the sport at this level.
just some thoughts.
Taylor
with over 150 3.5" long travel kits in the last year and a half, and 25-30 6" kits recently we have had some axle issues. But just think of the suspension capabilities of LSR, SoCal, RMafia, RCraft, others, and us. To my knowledge we have all had issues. There is alot to be said about installation methods, how these cars are driven, and the differences in Rhinos that are causing the gremlins to pop up.
I can say that we are always here to offer as much help as possible with problems when and if they occur. My 6" kit(#2 production kit)worked perfect, but it was set up correctly, blew my head gasket though. Part of the sport at this level.
just some thoughts.
Taylor
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Yes, this is very true... i have told people that want to install it themselves OR take it to someone that doesnt have experience installing long travel kits to be wary of the results and reliability of the installation.tat2max said:
This is the unseen benefit that anyone buying a long travel kit should put at the top of their list. PRODUCT SUPPORT. Its good to see that you guys work with the consumer in resolving any issues that may arise.tat2max said:
In regards to your kit, how do the spindles hold up with the 6" kit, are they any issues there?
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MR O,
Thanks for the reply and understanding of where and how things happen.
As far as the spindles go, we have had problems only when driver error occurs, so far. They are a weak point after you beef up the suspension, and the steering rack becomes the weak point when you beef up the spindles, which we offer- but it all depends on how the car is driven. As you know it is a long path to eliminate the next weak area of the whole lineup. This is why we offer tie-rod extensions, not replacements due to them ripping the rack apart. In my honest opinion everything needs to be replaced(if you want to be in that RACE catagory).....
Suspension, spindles, rack, frame supports, engine, clutch system.. the list goes on for dollars and dollars, and again-it depends on what you are going to do with the car.
Get it to the level that you are comfortable with, drive it-have fun, if you break something welcome to the club. Sometimes we seem to forget that this car was made to haul hay. It sure is a fun hobby for all levels though. It really helps when people support the products they sell to come up with answers for the problems, we try very hard.
Thanks again,
Taylor
Thanks for the reply and understanding of where and how things happen.
As far as the spindles go, we have had problems only when driver error occurs, so far. They are a weak point after you beef up the suspension, and the steering rack becomes the weak point when you beef up the spindles, which we offer- but it all depends on how the car is driven. As you know it is a long path to eliminate the next weak area of the whole lineup. This is why we offer tie-rod extensions, not replacements due to them ripping the rack apart. In my honest opinion everything needs to be replaced(if you want to be in that RACE catagory).....
Suspension, spindles, rack, frame supports, engine, clutch system.. the list goes on for dollars and dollars, and again-it depends on what you are going to do with the car.
Get it to the level that you are comfortable with, drive it-have fun, if you break something welcome to the club. Sometimes we seem to forget that this car was made to haul hay. It sure is a fun hobby for all levels though. It really helps when people support the products they sell to come up with answers for the problems, we try very hard.
Thanks again,
Taylor
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I bought several things from DFR and theyve ALWAYS provided excellent support! Actually, theyre like that weather youre there to by something or just ask question!!
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See now thats good info. DFR are you saying that you warranty and stand behind your product if it is installed by you or one of your
distributors. I personally paid to have my kit installed by Rhinocrap the
distributor at the time of the kit I chose, it cost me $300 to have it installed and yes I could have done it myself but its the best $300 I ever spent. When I did have an issue with broken axle the guys at Rhinocrap
were on top of it like it was thier own personal Rhino and they were not
the actual manufacture. Does this hold true for your company as well and
do you support your distributors when they have issues with your kit?
distributors. I personally paid to have my kit installed by Rhinocrap the
distributor at the time of the kit I chose, it cost me $300 to have it installed and yes I could have done it myself but its the best $300 I ever spent. When I did have an issue with broken axle the guys at Rhinocrap
were on top of it like it was thier own personal Rhino and they were not
the actual manufacture. Does this hold true for your company as well and
do you support your distributors when they have issues with your kit?
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That would be a yes, we stand behind our products 100%, sometimes above and beyond what we should. And so do our franchises, and dealers.
And yes i agree, $300 for a long travel install is well worth it, and that is exactly what we charge for ours.
It takes our well trained wrenches just under 4 hours. That is after dozens and of installs. It can be a tricky puzzle if the car is off at all, especially a used car.
Taylor
PS-i am not always on here, but i will eventually get back.
And yes i agree, $300 for a long travel install is well worth it, and that is exactly what we charge for ours.
It takes our well trained wrenches just under 4 hours. That is after dozens and of installs. It can be a tricky puzzle if the car is off at all, especially a used car.
Taylor
PS-i am not always on here, but i will eventually get back.
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Thats good to know, not everyone gets lucky like I
did with warranty issues I've seen and heard alot of
horror stories. That was the first question I asked
Rhinocrap when inquiring about the kits they had to
offer and when it came time to test it they came thru.
I am not sure if they where compensated by the manufacture, I never asked but I could see some distibutors
saying tuff **** your out of luck the manufacture won't do
anything about it. I guess my point is anyone that is looking for LT kit should ask these questions to the distributor and manufacture.
did with warranty issues I've seen and heard alot of
horror stories. That was the first question I asked
Rhinocrap when inquiring about the kits they had to
offer and when it came time to test it they came thru.
I am not sure if they where compensated by the manufacture, I never asked but I could see some distibutors
saying tuff **** your out of luck the manufacture won't do
anything about it. I guess my point is anyone that is looking for LT kit should ask these questions to the distributor and manufacture.
I've got the +3.5 from DFR and worked with Taylor's brother on my four seater build. The suspension is great, daddy gets to rip around, and then play nice when his girls are on board. They are a great bunch of guys and didn't try to sell me things I wouldn't need. Which is good, as I was constantly changing things and asking questions. I hope to make it to their party in March.
Well, that is definately good news to hear since I just bought your new 6' kit from American Sand Toys. Mike, Perry and Dennis have always taken care of me on issues with my Rhino. So I'm glad to hear you will stand behind your equipment since I will be hounding them if something goes wrong. Have you made any improvements on the axles nuts coming loose? As I'm in a different industry but with out customer service there is no reason to stay in business. I hope I never have issues, I'm hear to have a good time. Thanks again, for all of your information and support.
Nick
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I busted an axle out in the dunes from jumping, Rhinomafia installed a new at no charge and also kicked some t-shirts our way. Jeff also told me that gearone is working on some indestructable axles that will be out in the next few weeks.
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You are the first person I have heard of with an axle issue in the Rhino Mafia kit.max powers said:
I think its possible that running without a sway-bar might have contributed to the extra flex which could have lead to the axle breaking.
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