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I duned knobbys out there for a few trips,they suck compared to paddles and all paddles aren't created equal!!!! tons of people go to the dunes and tons of people really don't know how to dune,they just go out there to show off there payments on their junk, so just what the previous poster said,get some paddles and hook up with a group that knows how to dune, a desert die hard will probably not like the dunes and will most likely waud up his junk out there....anybody can fly down a hard packed fire road at 80 miles per hour,that takes no driving skill what so ever, but reading the dunes and the guys path and suspension in front of you puts your brain on overload and is almost exausting at times,as my desert hard pack buddy found out when he came last year and in the first set of dunes endowed his junk and broke his rist, there's more to the dunes than some would suspect....but once you figure it out its a total addition, some would say a love hate relationship...great times,cameron...