Tomorrow I going to bring a demo 450 home to play with but not sure whether I will be happy with it. My dealer sells both Rhinos and Teryx so I might just go with the Teryx for only a grand more. But I have also read where the 450 has plenty of power. I will be generally riding on wooded trails in P.A. Any input would be great. Thanks......
ronzimm
A friend that I ride with has a 450 and is quite happy with it. In retrospect, for my uses which are similar to yours, a 450 would do nicely...plus get better mpg
I have it now
To be honest I expected more snap from a stand still than it has. But it does have a lot of low end grunt. The one I have to demo is a 2006 but I don't think there is much difference between them and the new 09's. I can see what they mean about cabin noise with the air intake sitting next to you unlike the 700 which is under the hood. All and all it has passed all my testing so far. I am not crazy about the doors but I think it makes my 2 1/2 year old son feel more secure than riding in our very rough riding golf cart. The suspension on the 450 is smooth....
To be honest I expected more snap from a stand still than it has. But it does have a lot of low end grunt. The one I have to demo is a 2006 but I don't think there is much difference between them and the new 09's. I can see what they mean about cabin noise with the air intake sitting next to you unlike the 700 which is under the hood. All and all it has passed all my testing so far. I am not crazy about the doors but I think it makes my 2 1/2 year old son feel more secure than riding in our very rough riding golf cart. The suspension on the 450 is smooth....
I have an 06 450 and I test drove a 2008 Teryx today. The Teryx is a beast. It has neck snapping power. They had a Camo demo for $8,600 with 5 hours on it. I was really tempted.
There were a few things that kept me from pulling the trigger. It's a few inches bigger in pretty much every dimension...(I measured it) The other thing that I didn't like is how low the battery and electricals are. It could be a real problem for fording water. The hood didnt open either and the engine cover has to be unscrewed. for access. Another thing is how the plastics extend wider than the cage which makes them seem vulnerable.
The Teryx rides nice and has gobs of power but the throttle felt touchy to me. The Rhino drivetrain engages much smoother and the 450 especially lets you really finnesss through the real technical stuff with the low gearing.
I have over 3,000 brutal miles on my Rhino 450 in rocks and tight wooded trails and it has just been rock solid. I put a $20 ball joint in it today and besides a fuel pump that I wasn't sure I even needed, I haven't had to do anything but change the oil and fuel filter and keep the air cleaner clean.
On tight wooded trails even the Rhino is too big sometimes to ride with quads so in PA you will probably be doing the same type of riding that I do in North Jersey so the Rhino's size will be a big advantage.
The Teryx also has a drive belt that constantly engages and disengages compared to teh Rhino that has a belt that stays engaged which is less problematic.
I'm sticking with my 450 for now but that Teryx sure was tempting...
There were a few things that kept me from pulling the trigger. It's a few inches bigger in pretty much every dimension...(I measured it) The other thing that I didn't like is how low the battery and electricals are. It could be a real problem for fording water. The hood didnt open either and the engine cover has to be unscrewed. for access. Another thing is how the plastics extend wider than the cage which makes them seem vulnerable.
The Teryx rides nice and has gobs of power but the throttle felt touchy to me. The Rhino drivetrain engages much smoother and the 450 especially lets you really finnesss through the real technical stuff with the low gearing.
I have over 3,000 brutal miles on my Rhino 450 in rocks and tight wooded trails and it has just been rock solid. I put a $20 ball joint in it today and besides a fuel pump that I wasn't sure I even needed, I haven't had to do anything but change the oil and fuel filter and keep the air cleaner clean.
On tight wooded trails even the Rhino is too big sometimes to ride with quads so in PA you will probably be doing the same type of riding that I do in North Jersey so the Rhino's size will be a big advantage.
The Teryx also has a drive belt that constantly engages and disengages compared to teh Rhino that has a belt that stays engaged which is less problematic.
I'm sticking with my 450 for now but that Teryx sure was tempting...
ruraljersey
I agree with you on the technical riding aspect of the 450. I have a lot of tight trails with climbs, creeks and just going through woods. The 450 seems really great at low throttle. So the teryx you think would be hard to ride slowly in techinical trails? I know the Rhino is built the best and I do like the smaller size of the Rhino. I was riding it today on my atv/golf cart trails no problem. With the teryx it would be tough. My dealer wants 8000.00 for a 2009 Rhino 450 does that sound good. I think I will get the digital dash right away also.......
I agree with you on the technical riding aspect of the 450. I have a lot of tight trails with climbs, creeks and just going through woods. The 450 seems really great at low throttle. So the teryx you think would be hard to ride slowly in techinical trails? I know the Rhino is built the best and I do like the smaller size of the Rhino. I was riding it today on my atv/golf cart trails no problem. With the teryx it would be tough. My dealer wants 8000.00 for a 2009 Rhino 450 does that sound good. I think I will get the digital dash right away also.......
I had a 07 450 for 6 months. It was a good machine, but just did'nt have the snap I wanted, guess it didn't fit my style, so I traded for a 07 660. Just remember a 450 won't have near the re-sale a 700 or a Tyrex will. The demand for it is just not there, around here anyway. My dealer has a 07 450 he's had for over a year and a half. It can be bought for 5000.00!!!!!
Having praised the 450 desevedley so I would make the following recomendation.
Go to Hanover Powersports in Whippany NJ and buy a leftover 08 700. They have 3 left that they got from an bankrupted dealer and they are selling them for $8,999 and I get the feeling they will deal even more. Because you live in PA you won't pay sales tax. Don't pay any other fees either. See if you can get one for $8,800 out the door.
The 450 was pretty much identical to the 660 but the 700 is a much better machine with fuel injection, 4 wheel discs, improved air intake, axles, e-brake lever, digital gauge, cooling system, CV guards and lots more. The 450 got none of the improvements..
Good Luck... The 700 is amazing but if you are set on a 450 you won't be disappointed with either.
Go to Hanover Powersports in Whippany NJ and buy a leftover 08 700. They have 3 left that they got from an bankrupted dealer and they are selling them for $8,999 and I get the feeling they will deal even more. Because you live in PA you won't pay sales tax. Don't pay any other fees either. See if you can get one for $8,800 out the door.
The 450 was pretty much identical to the 660 but the 700 is a much better machine with fuel injection, 4 wheel discs, improved air intake, axles, e-brake lever, digital gauge, cooling system, CV guards and lots more. The 450 got none of the improvements..
Good Luck... The 700 is amazing but if you are set on a 450 you won't be disappointed with either.
quieter
I also heard that the 700 is much quieter in the cab than the 450. You are right about resale value when it comes to the 700 and the 450. Although my dealer says he sells a lot of the 450's due to price difference here. But I plan on having a long time so I might as well get my moneys worth and go for a 700 with the fuel injection. I had a hard time getting this 450 started today after running out of gas which would not be an issue with the fuel injection.
I also heard that the 700 is much quieter in the cab than the 450. You are right about resale value when it comes to the 700 and the 450. Although my dealer says he sells a lot of the 450's due to price difference here. But I plan on having a long time so I might as well get my moneys worth and go for a 700 with the fuel injection. I had a hard time getting this 450 started today after running out of gas which would not be an issue with the fuel injection.
I live here in SW PA and have a 08 450 and my use is trails and hunting and I use it around the yard (work), I love it it has enough power for me and is unbeleiveable in the woods compared to mt 660 grizzly i use to have. Just my 2 cents worth a very capable machine!!!
I think my 450 is no different in our terrain here in PA/backwoods. I have had mine loaded down with wood/gravel and she hardly labored at all. I just dont think to me the extra $1200-1700. is worth the 5mph for my use's.I do wish it was fuel injected but I have the hunterworks CDI and she fires right up on those Cold PA winter days!! I have hung right there with the 660's 700's @ Rock Run thru the swamps/mud & rock climbing but in the open flats @WOT they do pull ahead. alittle. Im 52 and I like to enjoy our scenery in the PA backwoods so the speed is not my bag of apples. I use it for hunting/work around the house and trail riding. I use to have a 660Grizzly quad and I will never own a quad this thing is awsome more comfortable and your not beat after a long days ride!!
Good luck on your decision though,It really matters on what you think your useage would be and of course $$$. PS I can ride for 5-7 hrs a day and use about 2 gals of gas with it.
RonZimm:
http://www.atv.com/manufacturers/yamaha/2008-yamaha-rhino-450-4x4-review-787.html
This might help a bit for info also
Good luck on your decision though,It really matters on what you think your useage would be and of course $$$. PS I can ride for 5-7 hrs a day and use about 2 gals of gas with it.
RonZimm:
http://www.atv.com/manufacturers/yamaha/2008-yamaha-rhino-450-4x4-review-787.html
This might help a bit for info also
Rhino power
I have a 08se that i got new in 09. I have 1800 hard miles on my rhino and ive been chaseing just a little extra power for years... I have 27" swap lites, 4k winches frt/rear, full size optama redtop battery, electric fuel pump, cdi box, greaseless weights along with machined clutch.... I just added the one missing piece... Webcam's camshaft... Very unimpressed.. I was expecting a "overall gain" and feels worse! I have a dynojet carb kit im gonna put BACK IN.. And hope that helps... If u have a 450, dont bother spending the $300 (after u get ur refund for cam core) on ur 450!
I have a 08se that i got new in 09. I have 1800 hard miles on my rhino and ive been chaseing just a little extra power for years... I have 27" swap lites, 4k winches frt/rear, full size optama redtop battery, electric fuel pump, cdi box, greaseless weights along with machined clutch.... I just added the one missing piece... Webcam's camshaft... Very unimpressed.. I was expecting a "overall gain" and feels worse! I have a dynojet carb kit im gonna put BACK IN.. And hope that helps... If u have a 450, dont bother spending the $300 (after u get ur refund for cam core) on ur 450!
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