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Good Heater Solution??

I have been searching for a good heater solution for the Rhino without having to spend $400+ on other solutions like the Rhino Gear heater, etc... Not to knock these products as I am sure they are really nice. I just cant justify $400+

I decided it had to be water heated.. it would be less work on the electrical system if your running a radio, lights, etc... I didn't want anything that took up room in the cab. It also had to have a way to run a defrost.

I found, I think a great solution. At Summit Racing, they have their own line of mojave style heaters.

Here is the one I purchased.

Summit SUM-991102 - $134.95


Summit SUM-991103
Heater Duct Kit - $27.95


Here is a Rhino specific heater.



The Differences.

The rhino heater is 12,000 BTU (I believe).. the Summit heater is 28,000 BTU. The rhino heater has a 2 speed fan, the summit has a 3 speed fan.

The rhino heater just has holes in the dash.



The Summit heater has an actual vent that swivels, you can open and close it also. The rhino heater has defrost, you can easily add it to the Summit heater.

The similarities... look at the mounting system on the rhino heater and the Summit heater, here is the rhino heater, look up for the summit heater pic.



You can see the rhino heater has 3 holes and the summit 2.. the 3rd hole is for the defrost, we can add this on the summit heater if you need it. You can just put a 3 inch T on the end of one of the outputs on the summit heater and run a 3rd pipe to a defrost vent. Summit carrys those also.

Rhino heater defrost


Summit defrost vent
HRA-24-2001 $19.95


As you can see they are very similar, I ordered the parts tonight, so when they come in, I will take some pictures of the whole install and hopefully it will work out well. In the summer you could remove the heater hoses and use the vents to cool your legs! Someone out there may have done this before, but I searched and could not come up with a good solution.. We shall see.. Total price w/ shipping $173.85

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you can also cut holes and mount a computer fan to push out heat from the motor. cut the holes next to the seat a foot level next to the motor. use computers fans that can push air in or out.

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I have been searching for a good heater solution for the Rhino without having to spend $400+ on other solutions like the Rhino Gear heater, etc... Not to knock these products as I am sure they are really nice. I just cant justify $400+

I decided it had to be water heated.. it would be less work on the electrical system if your running a radio, lights, etc... I didn't want anything that took up room in the cab. It also had to have a way to run a defrost.

I found, I think a great solution. At Summit Racing, they have their own line of mojave style heaters.

Here is the one I purchased.

Summit SUM-991102 - $134.95


Summit SUM-991103
Heater Duct Kit - $27.95


Here is a Rhino specific heater.



The Differences.

The rhino heater is 12,000 BTU (I believe).. the Summit heater is 28,000 BTU. The rhino heater has a 2 speed fan, the summit has a 3 speed fan.

The rhino heater just has holes in the dash.



The Summit heater has an actual vent that swivels, you can open and close it also. The rhino heater has defrost, you can easily add it to the Summit heater.

The similarities... look at the mounting system on the rhino heater and the Summit heater, here is the rhino heater, look up for the summit heater pic.



You can see the rhino heater has 3 holes and the summit 2.. the 3rd hole is for the defrost, we can add this on the summit heater if you need it. You can just put a 3 inch T on the end of one of the outputs on the summit heater and run a 3rd pipe to a defrost vent. Summit carrys those also.

Rhino heater defrost


Summit defrost vent
HRA-24-2001 $19.95


As you can see they are very similar, I ordered the parts tonight, so when they come in, I will take some pictures of the whole install and hopefully it will work out well. In the summer you could remove the heater hoses and use the vents to cool your legs! Someone out there may have done this before, but I searched and could not come up with a good solution.. We shall see.. Total price w/ shipping $173.85
Very nice.

I'll be interested in reading your product review.
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Let us know how well it works and how easy install was. That would make the wife happier on some colder rides.
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I've been plowing snow all winter at 7800' freezing cold out. I do have a cab enclosure on but I just pulled the boot off my emergency brake (08) and it works most excellent. Really heats it up after the motor gets warm.
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jc whitney sells that setup too... little cheaper.

anything marketed for rhino is going to include an extra hit you in the head fee.... all you really need is a fan and a heater core from any car.

for 130 bucks that summit kit is a nice little setup. they have electric ones designed for school buses if you are not into running heater hoses all over the place.
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you can also cut holes and mount a computer fan to push out heat from the motor. cut the holes next to the seat a foot level next to the motor. use computers fans that can push air in or out.
That is a good idea, but when your actually moving, I dont think that fan is going to do much. Also... I go through deep water, so... those things would be clogged with muddy water the 1st time I took em out. This heater is going to produce some major heat.

I do not have a full enclosure... I have to weigh my options. I have a 1/2 windshield and roof. I might buy the yamaha plastic rear window, but do not know how it will work with only a 1/2 windshield and not a full one. I thought it might just throw the cold air up against the rear window and back on my neck.

When I 1st install, I am not going to install the defrost, just because I might not need it with only a 1/2 windshield.

I also removed my emergency boot and it does put up a little heat, but if your cab is not fully enclosed it just rolls right out of it.

This heater is out of the way of the cab, has nice vents, and if the rhino heater at 12000btu keeps you toasty.. imagine the 28000 btu of the summit heater.. should keep me extremely warm without an enclosed cab... either way, for $170 ill try it out.

If it works, ill put together a kit on ebay and sell it for more... im sure it would sell.

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jc whitney sells that setup too... little cheaper.

anything marketed for rhino is going to include an extra hit you in the head fee.... all you really need is a fan and a heater core from any car.

for 130 bucks that summit kit is a nice little setup. they have electric ones designed for school buses if you are not into running heater hoses all over the place.
I did see those heaters, but all they are is a space heater, which we all know takes up juice, esp on a Rhino. Plus it mounts in your cab and is ugly. This setup will be hotter, cleaner install, and not use much power at all on the battery.

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Just some food for thought ...... even though summit claims 28000 BTU this is limited by how much and how hot the water is. On a cold day you may find that there is not enough heat in the water from the motor to produce 28000 BTU. The same holds true about the rhino heater.

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Just some food for thought ...... even though summit claims 28000 BTU this is limited by how much and how hot the water is. On a cold day you may find that there is not enough heat in the water from the motor to produce 28000 BTU. The same holds true about the rhino heater.

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True... but I believe it will be hot enough, we beat the **** out of our Rhinos... the fans are always running, so im sure it will be hot enough.

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True... but I believe it will be hot enough, we beat the **** out of our Rhinos... the fans are always running, so im sure it will be hot enough.
all you have to do is have a thermostat in the water line and your temp will always be the same. they sell inline stat housings. FI rhino should already have a thermostat in them

jcwhitney has, or at least used to have the water plumbed kits like you have. they are very common on old hot/rat rod type of work where even heaters were not available or at best optional.
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all you have to do is have a thermostat in the water line and your temp will always be the same. they sell inline stat housings. FI rhino should already have a thermostat in them

jcwhitney has, or at least used to have the water plumbed kits like you have. they are very common on old hot/rat rod type of work where even heaters were not available or at best optional.
Yeah, I know the heaters have been around for a while, I just never realized how similar the Summit model is to the rhino model.

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hehe... they are all the same. there are just some enterprising individuals out there recycling old ideas, and marketing to the utv crowd. nothing wrong with that at all. but eventually word gets out what they are doing god bless the internet!
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That looks like the one I was looking at.My question is that I have a extra battery in the spot that it should be mounted. Any suggestion on another place to mount. I was thinking of a mounting plate on the left side?
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I go through deep water, so... those things would be clogged with muddy water the 1st time I took em out. .
I question whether any of these heater setups are designed to be mounted in an environment like a Rhino underhood area. Too much exposure to the elements. I've been wrong before.

How about the one that directs air from behind the radiator into the cab...no power draw there.
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its obvious none of these are designed for a rhino. these are all designed for dry use, above water etc. if you get water in the squirrel cage it will pump some through the vents, the rest should drain out the bottom drain line in the heater box. nothing can meet every need

you can divert air from the radiator, but the problem is you cannot easily turn off the heat without sacrificing air flow through the radiator. unless of course you make a diverter with a flapper. one directs air to the vent system the other just dumps under the hood.

all heaters will draw a certain amount of energy as they all have electric fans to push the air.

if you wanted a safe, easily installed option you could use all weather seat covers {like those found for jeeps} with seat heaters underneath... unless you have aftermarket seats where you can pull the covering off and have the heaters installed in the foam. the benefit to this is it will keep you warm even without a windshield or full cab.
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