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Old 06-03-2008, 04:06 PM
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Hey, where are Joyner cars made ?

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chinese pyramid scam
If this Ruesch company were a pyramid scam, what makes it a Chinese pyramid scam?

A number of years ago, cars from Japan were crap! Just like cars from Korea were crap, and like cars or ATVs from China are crap today. Maybe you guys are too young to remember. There are still cars from Japan, Korea and the USA that are crap. The difference is that the crappy cars are from crappy companies. Yamaha, Honda, Polaris, everybody uses China factories to build their stuff. There is no difference between These manufacturer's and Ruesch. Except Ruesch is a new company without a track record. When you see a guy out at the dunes laughing as he passes you in his Ruesch XRL, you'll have to ask yourself why he's laughing. Maybe it's because he's passing you, maybe it's because he's passing you in a machine that cost $8k less than yours.

I know there is no way to convince people who don't want to be convinced. I have talked to guys in audio shops, paint shops, fab shops that all deal with Yamaha's, Polaris, and Kawasaki's all day long. EVERY one of them tells me this Ruesch XRL looks strong, and in some areas looks better than the Rhino. I can promise you there are some bugs to be worked out. There will be issues to resolve with the Ruesch machines. That's par for the course. I can't read the future, I hope Ruesch Motor Company is in this for the long haul. They have a great track record with their scrap book company. They obviously know how to run a good company. I have met many of the people there, and they are all good people with the best intentions. Talk crap about Ruesh Motor Company and China all you want. I still chuckle that some of you guys can't see the truth about china manufacturing. I don't mean to sound condescending, but I think if you looked into the story behind Yamaha, Polaris and Joyner, you will see a recurring cycle.
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they are already in here in phoenix the guys over at motorsports head quaters had one a few weeks ago, it didnt have long travel onit but it looked identical to the rhino but with a few changes around the speedometer area.
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You have tunnel vision. Many of us have posted that good products can come fronm China. Reusch is not a manufacturer no matter what u think. They are the only ones getting rich. Just like Thunder Motorsports is the only ones getting rich. You also cannot compare Thunder Motorsports to Yamaha or Reusch. I know the owner of Thunder Motorsports who is the distributor for Joyner. At least he has an exclusive deal with the manufacturer to not sell to someone else and he fronts the money for product. He has hundreds sitting down there and personally does the R&D to make improvements and then sends the design changes to China. All Reasch is is a middle man taking most of the profits with no risk. I know what the buggies cost straight from China. A 4K buggy cost less than a grand. I undertand you have to stand up for the decisions you have made. You will soon see the lght. I have nothing against you. I hope u do well, but I think you are misinformed. Please post the name of the manufacturer.
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Just curious, How fast does the Stock XLR go?
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Hey can you post up the warranty information on one of these? I went to http://www.rueschmotorcompany.com/ and all I can find is a $300 gaurantee to a dealer for flight costs and a promise that they can return their floor model. That's great if your a dealer. What about the consumer? Their website just oozes pyramid scheme. It is all a sales pitch to get dealers.
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Technically speaking a pyramid scheme would be where everybody pays the person above them in the pyramid. The idea being that the people make money from the person below them. When I buy these Ruesch machines, I pay the manufacturer. I have a Master Dealer (or regional dealer), who supports me with information, helping me with sales support, marketing etc. I have nobody above me, and nobody below me. The Master Dealer gets paid from the manufacturer.

Every manufacturer needs dealers to sell their product. Ruesch Motor Company is advertising to recruit dealers, how else are they to get their machines out around the country for people to look at and buy? Some of the dealers have been talking to the manufacturer about consumer advertising. They say they will be putting up web page info, but I don't know when.

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Just curious, How fast does the Stock XLR go?
I have a few machines that I am just now assembling. I don't have any of them broke in yet, so I can't push the throttle. at half throttle I get to about 30mph with the base 500cc motor. There is a turbo option available for the XRL from the factory, which I hear will compete with the RZR for power. The XR and XRL base engine is probably fine for the average American buyer. Us people here in the southwest are not average. We need lots of power to hit Oldsmobile hill, and catch 6 feet of air off the top. Woo hoo. Ruesch Motor Company is testing a new 950cc motor, which will require new differentials and new axles.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AzBdBy View Post
You have tunnel vision. Many of us have posted that good products can come fronm China. Reusch is not a manufacturer no matter what u think. They are the only ones getting rich. Just like Thunder Motorsports is the only ones getting rich. You also cannot compare Thunder Motorsports to Yamaha or Reusch. I know the owner of Thunder Motorsports who is the distributor for Joyner. At least he has an exclusive deal with the manufacturer to not sell to someone else and he fronts the money for product. He has hundreds sitting down there and personally does the R&D to make improvements and then sends the design changes to China. All Reasch is is a middle man taking most of the profits with no risk. I know what the buggies cost straight from China. A 4K buggy cost less than a grand. I undertand you have to stand up for the decisions you have made. You will soon see the lght. I have nothing against you. I hope u do well, but I think you are misinformed. Please post the name of the manufacturer.
Ruesch Motor Company is not the middle man. Similar to Thunder Motorsports, they make design changes and those changes get implemented almost immidiatly. I believe the frame is a Rhino copy. The suspension may borrow from others, maybe FST I don't know. But hey, what's wrong with copying a good design? All the big auto manufacturer's do it on a regular basis. Now Ruesch Motor Company chose to use the Rhino fram for a few very good reasons. A large number of after market parts that is already available for the Rhino, can be used on the Ruesch vehicles. The frame is a tried and true design. It would be bad business to create a frame from scratch, test, redesign, test, redesign, put out on the market, have issues, redesign, unhappy customers with no after market parts available... You get the point.

Ruesch Motor Company is a manufacturer. They have quality control and design teams. They make design changes, and test these changes. They prototype design ideas, and they have good mechanics at their facilities in Cedar City, UT to fine tune the engine, suspension, look, feel, etc. All this is in Utah. The units are assembled in China becuase of the low cost of labor. Just like Yamaha, Honda, Polaris and Thunder Motorsports. They all have China assembly plants, some more than others.
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Manufacturer. # The name of the company or party who has made the asset.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Noisytoyz View Post
I have a few machines that I am just now assembling. I don't have any of them broke in yet, so I can't push the throttle. at half throttle I get to about 30mph with the base 500cc motor. There is a turbo option available for the XRL from the factory, which I hear will compete with the RZR for power. The XR and XRL base engine is probably fine for the average American buyer. Us people here in the southwest are not average. We need lots of power to hit Oldsmobile hill, and catch 6 feet of air off the top. Woo hoo. Ruesch Motor Company is testing a new 950cc motor, which will require new differentials and new axles.
So, do you know how fast they go full throttle. What do you tell your customers on top speed. I am not one trying to bash you, just curious. Ruesch has one at the Moab Rally, but according to them, the model they had there was a test model for the turbo and wasn't running the best. Still testing.
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So, do you know how fast they go full throttle. What do you tell your customers on top speed. I am not one trying to bash you, just curious. Ruesch has one at the Moab Rally, but according to them, the model they had there was a test model for the turbo and wasn't running the best. Still testing.
The top speed it 48 mph on the one I tested and confirmed with a chase car. I was told that Ruesch is replacing the turbo with a larger unit to help with the low end acceleration. Apparently they weren't real happy with the low end performance (before turbo spool up).

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