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Old 03-24-2009, 06:12 PM
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Riding and Registration in New Hampshire

Hi, I'm new to the form and had a question about riding in NH. I have owned my 07 660 for about a year now and was wondering where others in NH rode. I also wanted to ask about registration. By the current state laws I don't think rhinos fall under the ATV rules (weight, width, tire pressure). Does anyone have experience reg. there vehicals with the state? I would like to take my rhino to some of the state atv riding parks but not sure if I would get a ticket if I reg. as an atv and got spotted by a fish and game officer? I wish NH was like WV or PA were they have large riding parks that are open to UTV's. My wife and I love the rhino and use it for chores around the house (great snow plow!) We ride in the woods on family land but I would love to get out and explore more of the state but don't want to get a ticket or any other law trouble. Any advice on what other NH people have done would be great. I also would love to reg. it for the road, it has a bunch of after market stuff, lights/horn etc. I think it should be able to get a plate. The folks at the town office disagreed. Anyone have any help on this issue? I'm from the concord area. Thanks in advance for all the help. E.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:41 PM
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I can't answer your questions, but I just emailed the New Hampshire Fish & Game folks to ask them the same question, since I live in Mass and would buy NH registration if I could ride on their ATV trails...

Here's what I asked:

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How do you classify a Yamaha Rhino side-by-side utility vehicle?

Is it an ATV? It's a two-passenger vehicle that weighs 1050 lbs dry...

Is it allowed on ATV trails, since it is only 49.5" wide to the outside of the wheels?

If not, how is it characterized, and where could I operate it off-road in New Hampshire?

I live in Massachusetts and am considering registering it in NH also, if I can use it on the trails there.
I'll let you know if they respond to my email, and what they say.
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Thanks, I would be interesting to hear what they have to say. Is it really under 50"? I thought it was like 54"? I do know it just fits in the back of a ford 350.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:16 PM
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Thanks, I would be interesting to hear what they have to say. Is it really under 50"? I thought it was like 54"? I do know it just fits in the back of a ford 350.
The stock width is 49.5" to the outside of the wheels -- but the body is wider. Of course, I just added wheel spacers to mine that puts the width of the wheels out to 53.5"...
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:46 AM
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I just called and talked to a lady in the NH office, since they hadn't responded to my email. Rhinos are NOT usable on the state trails there because of (a) their weight being over 1000 lbs, and (b) their width of the body panels being over 50 inches. She says that there are posts spaced 50" wide to specifically limit access to any vehicles wider. The only exception to this prohibition on state trails is at the new Jericho Mountain State Park, where the limitations have been increased a bit. As long as the the UTV is less than 1200 lbs and 60" wide, you can ride at Jericho. That's the only place. Here's the link for Jericho:

New Hampshire Trails Bureau

Not the news I wanted to hear either. Now, I'm looking at possibly registering mine in Vermont, which will allow Rhinos on their ATV trails, according to a lady at the Vermont ATV Sporstman's Association (VASA) that I talked to. Vermont's weight restriction is 1700 lbs and I don't think there's a width restriction. Vermont is more expensive and more complicated to register in, as a non-resident. But, they're more accepting of the Rhinos...

Note that Vermont has a reciprocity agreement with NH on their registration, so I think all you'd need to do in Vermont is to join a VT club, which automatically enrolls you in VASA and gets you statewide trail access...
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Note that Vermont has a reciprocity agreement with NH on their registration, so I think all you'd need to do in Vermont is to join a VT club, which automatically enrolls you in VASA and gets you statewide trail access...[/quote]


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Old 04-01-2009, 01:37 PM
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Note that Vermont has a reciprocity agreement with NH on their registration, so I think all you'd need to do in Vermont is to join a VT club, which automatically enrolls you in VASA and gets you statewide trail access...

ah,your catching on [/quote]

This is both confusing and frustrating.... now I'm hearing from some local clubs here in MA that I may not be able to ride in the four state parks that allow ATVs -- even though they gladly took my sales tax and registration fee on Monday... so, I may not be able to legally ride it in the forests here, either.

There's nothing on the MA DNR site that states a weight or width restriction, however.

Department of Conservation and Recreation

I think my next step is to call and talk to someone in a VT club to find out how much of the VT trail system is on US Forest Service land -- which also has the 50" width restriction, I understand...

Geez...
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:38 PM
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This is both confusing and frustrating.... now I'm hearing from some local clubs here in MA that I may not be able to ride in the four state parks that allow ATVs -- even though they gladly took my sales tax and registration fee on Monday... so, I may not be able to legally ride it in the forests here, either.

There's nothing on the MA DNR site that states a weight or width restriction, however.

Department of Conservation and Recreation

I think my next step is to call and talk to someone in a VT club to find out how much of the VT trail system is on US Forest Service land -- which also has the 50" width restriction, I understand...

Geez...
Another update, since it may be of value to others.

Vermont is a player --

1. There are no Forest Service lands in the Vermont trail system only private property, so that width restriction is not an issue.

2. Vermont's size restriction is 60" wide and its weight limit is 1700 lbs -- intentionally large enough to allow the new 4 or 6 passenger UTVs to still play...

3. Vermont, though it only has reciprocity agreements with PA, NY and NH, still only charges $25 a year for their tags -- and there's no additional charge for non-residents -- I pay the same amount as a Vermont resident.

Note that after registering the UTV in Vermont, you still need to join a club and and pay your local dues plus $10 a year to get access to the state-wide trail system maintained by the consortium of clubs. They give you a map of all the private, club-maintained trails throughout the entire state, and you can ride them all....

While these additional charges to the club and statewide ATV association sounds like a hassle, you can purchase them at many area dealers and businesses -- it's relatively painless, once you've gotten your UTV registered with the state and have a Vermont tag.

The combination of ALL these charges is still less than NH non-resident charge, for example, and quite comparable to Maine's non-resident charge...

Sounds like that's the way I'm going to go...
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Thanks KentT, is sounds like you really have done your homework. I wish the live free and Die state would was a little more free when it comes to ATV rules. So to summerize all I need to do (as a nh residant) is reg. my rhino in new hampshire and join a club in VT and pay a trail fee to ride in VT? Do you know anything about Maine? Do they allow Rhinos on trails?
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Quote: Originally Posted by NH Rhino View Post
Thanks KentT, is sounds like you really have done your homework. I wish the live free and Die state would was a little more free when it comes to ATV rules. So to summerize all I need to do (as a nh residant) is reg. my rhino in new hampshire and join a club in VT and pay a trail fee to ride in VT? Do you know anything about Maine? Do they allow Rhinos on trails?
Yes, you are correct on how to get access to the VT trails. Note that the out-of-state registration charge for VASA is a little higher than for residents, but still not that expensive.

Maine, I understand literally has thousands of miles of trails, and UTVs are welcome as far as I've been able to find. However, Maine (like Mass) does not have a reciprocity agreement with any other state -- you have to register there to ride there.
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Vermont is UTV friendly!

Hello everyone. I'm the webmaster for the Southern Vermont Trail Riders (http://svtr.net). I am also the proud owner of an 07 Rhino 660. The rhino is quite welcome on our trail system as long as you are registered in VT or a state with reciprocity and have joined both VASA and one of the local clubs. Once you have met the above requirements, you are welcome to ride on any of our club trail systems. Note: some trails do have seasonal or time of day restrictions and the club that maintains those trails can inform you as the the specific restrictions.

I was saddened to hear that both NH and NY do not recognize the Rhino as an ATV and don't allow operation on their trail systems. I was looking forward the riding my Rhino up Mt. Washington this year but it now looks like that won't be possible.

If any of you have questions about the UTV in Vermont, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them or at least point you to someone here who can.

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I was saddened to hear that both NH and NY do not recognize the Rhino as an ATV and don't allow operation on their trail systems. I was looking forward the riding my Rhino up Mt. Washington this year but it now looks like that won't be possible.

-Xathros
Bill, can you check and confirm that?

The prohibition, I think, is for trails in NH state forests.

I'm not sure that prohibition applies to: (a) private trails in NH, or (b) operating on a public road when that is legal, as during the Mt Washington events.

I'd like to know, because I understand there's some great family UTV riding in Bath, NH where the trails are old RR beds and you can legally enter to town for potty breaks, ice cream breaks, etc.

I'm thinking the NH rule may not be quite as restrictive as it could appear...

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Bill, can you check and confirm that?

The prohibition, I think, is for trails in NH state forests.

I'm not sure that prohibition applies to: (a) private trails in NH, or (b) operating on a public road when that is legal, as during the Mt Washington events.

I'd like to know, because I understand there's some great family UTV riding in Bath, NH where the trails are old RR beds and you can legally enter to town for potty breaks, ice cream breaks, etc.

I'm thinking the NH rule may not be quite as restrictive as it could appear...

BTW -- PM sent!
Kent-

Lloyd is going to be talking with the Mt Washington staff in the next week or two and will confirm. Based on what I have heard, NY and NH don't allow UTV registrations any longer and any vehicle taking part in these events is required to be registered. I'm hoping you are correct however.

I'll post back here as soon as I have hard confirmation one way or the other.

-X

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You bring up a good point Xathros, if VT has reciprocity with NH and VT considers Rhinos as ATV's (which I wish all states would) then you should be able to ride your Vt Registered "ATV" in NH, especially on the MT washington auto road which is a private road. I've ridden the auto road on my street bike and it is a blast.
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any updates on the mt.washington deal, i have gone up the mountian w/my f-350 diesel, can't see why they wouldn't allow sxs's
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