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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-11-2007, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Question Rhino on 4-wheeler trails??

My wife and I are looking to buy a Rhino, but are wondering if we would have any problems with the Rhino's width while riding on the 4-wheeler trails? I know that there is about 6 inches difference between Rhinos and 4 wheelers. Mountain trails are my main concern, some people have told me to go with the Polaris RZR for that reason. Any input would be great.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-11-2007, 01:31 PM
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Depending on where you go. Utah has somw restrictions on UTV's. under 800lbs, less than 52" wide and straddle steer(like a quad).You will have to check trail rules in the area you are going.
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Depending on where you go. Utah has somw restrictions on UTV's. under 800lbs, less than 52" wide and straddle steer(like a quad).You will have to check trail rules in the area you are going.
I didnt know they had restrictions like that. I will check. But as far as handling, on a tighter mountain trail, has the width caused you any problems?
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As Dunerocket said you really need to take the time to check your riding areas. Some trails in Colorado are 48". General Forrest Service is 50" according to what I've read. and I have seen signs from 48-52".

Now these are "trails" for special purpose. In some areas there are plenty of 2 track and other trails that are off-road enough for fun, but may have ATV or MC trails in the same area.

A lot of $$$ so suggest you are certain.

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I have a buddy with a stock rzr (aside for a few safety things and nerf bars) - my rhino is also stock aside for some new standard size wheel and tires and some nerf bars and the like. long story short....

we have not come into a place that is too tight fro me not to get into and him to get into. On the trail, he isnt miuch faster than me either.

IMO, I think your choice should come between the Rhino and maybe a 4 wheeler or two.

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Like rcmass stated you CAN get into ATV trails, but if you are in the National Forrest, their regulation states 50". some places have very little enforcement but that doesn't make it legal.

I know trails in my area we can get away with but illegal use can carry $5000 fine, confiscation of the ATV and confiscation of the tow vehicle. We do it anyway sometimes, but know the risk.

The RAZR is designed to meet the National Forrest Service Regs in both width and weight.

Many National Forrests post specific regulations for each forrest on their respective websites. These regs are being updated more often right now. The BLW usually has less restrictions, but they are under pressure to more specifically regulate.

There are a lot of places to operate the Rhino and with difficult trials and sections, I like the rhino for my use better, but if using ATV trails is the best option in your area, you might consider if the RAZR will work, so far it is legal.
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Like rcmass stated you CAN get into ATV trails, but if you are in the National Forrest, their regulation states 50". some places have very little enforcement but that doesn't make it legal.

I know trails in my area we can get away with but illegal use can carry $5000 fine, confiscation of the ATV and confiscation of the tow vehicle. We do it anyway sometimes, but know the risk.

The RAZR is designed to meet the National Forrest Service Regs in both width and weight.

Many National Forrests post specific regulations for each forrest on their respective websites. These regs are being updated more often right now. The BLW usually has less restrictions, but they are under pressure to more specifically regulate.

There are a lot of places to operate the Rhino and with difficult trials and sections, I like the rhino for my use better, but if using ATV trails is the best option in your area, you might consider if the RAZR will work, so far it is legal.
I know in Utah where we got stopped the Ranger also said straddle steer so that would make the RZR illegal to ride on atv only trails.
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Are there such restrictions in AZ forests, I'm new to this ,but I've not heard of such.

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I know in Utah where we got stopped the Ranger also said straddle steer so that would make the RZR illegal to ride on atv only trails.
Dune:

I just read that requirement for straddle steer.

Was that on ATV trails or just general offroad stuff? Also what about some of the general Moab areas? I'll be disappointed if no way to Rhino Moab, was looking forward to it. Can dirt bike it but...

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Rhino's are allowed in Moab.

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Are there such restrictions in AZ forests, I'm new to this ,but I've not heard of such.
I only know of one 50" max trail in Az. It's just above Eagar. The head gate has two poles set at 50", no way to get a Rhino through. However the trail intersects the main road in several places and those gates are just big rocks, a stocker fit these gates and handled the trail fine. There were a couple places on the trail with tight gates that people had gone around, enough that there are little roads blazed into the ground. This is the kind of damage that will start enforcement actions. If the consiquences are 5K and loose your ride it's not worth it. There are too many other places to ride a UTV for that. There are many, many small roads that have seen little to no traffic that are OK to be on.

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Rhino's are allowed in Moab.

That's good news. I looked it up also. I think they must be talking about other areas in Utah.
Saw the UTV rallys in Moab, so let er rip.
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The Paiute Trail in Utah has at least one area where you would be in trouble for taking even a Razr on the trail. The ATV width section of trail that comes southwest out of Koosharem, and climbs to the top of Monroe Mountain, has a sign that says "ATVs only, maximum vehicle width 50" and rider must straddle vehicle". There are a few other sections of the Paiute Trail where they have 50" wide gates at the entrance of the trail, and there are a few other signs that say "ATVs only", but don't have the part about having to straddle the vehicle. People do the whole Paiute Trail with side x sides anyway though. I talked to someone that did the whole 01 trail loop just the other day. I asked if they had had any problems with their side x sides, and he told me they had to winch them up one of the switchbacks on the trail that comes northwest up out of Circleville.

The Duck Creek trail system in Utah also has numerous 50" wide gates at trailheads. And they have signs that specifically say "No side x sides", and they have a picture of a Yamaha Rhino on the sign.

So check where you are going to be riding to make sure it is legal before you drop a load of cash on a side x side.
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