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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-17-2011, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
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Winch not holding plow up

I finally snapped the cable on my plow set up so I changed the cable to a nylon strap. Now the winch winch won't hold the plow up. The winch is way underpowered for the Rhino, but worked well for the plow and I was hoping to to get through the winter before buying a Warn. Here is my setup:

Superwinch 2000atv winch
66" American Eagle Mfg plow with front mount.

Here is what I changed after the cable snapped:
-I removed most of the cable and put 10ft of nylon 2"strap.
I did this because 1-The cable binds. 2-it flattens out and weakens on the rollers. 3-Cable grooves the rollers with the constant back and forth of plowing.
-I flipped the roller fairlead over seeing as the bottom one was fairly chewed up and I did not want it to ruin the nylon strap (maybe this screwed with the angle of the plow rope?)
-I replaced the dash mount switch with a handheld switch on a 10' lead.

I notice that my winch rope is coming off of the bottom of the spool.
I am wondering if by extending the switch wires I messed something up. I used 8gauge wire, so it should be getting enough juice.
When I pull my plow up it slowly goes down. The nylon strap is not slipping on the drum. The actual drum is turning and letting the plow back down slowly.

I am assuming that the gears are stripped, or the mechanism for the freespool is not fully disengaging.

Anybody have any advice?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-17-2011, 06:22 PM
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did it do this before? the winch may not have a built in brake (My warn 2000 lb winch has no brake so it will do the same.)

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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-17-2011, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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It used to lock in whatever position I put it in and would not come down. I did pull the freespool knob to release the drum to get the wire cable out. I am thinking that when I engaged it maybe it didn't go in all the way, or maybe the gears got stripped out inside. I have had several atv's with winches and plows and they would all hold the plow up. I have even used the winch to hold things in the air like engines, deer, bear and atv's and never had any slowly come down on me. I am going to call Superwinch in the morning.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-18-2011, 06:24 PM
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Sounds like the internal Mechanical Brake has failed internally. Just a FYI my Milemarker 2500 Winch been handling A.E 72" Plow since 2006 and I plow ALOT!!!

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-18-2011, 08:10 PM
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the strap could be slipping on the winch drum. i swaped out the cable for the winter on my warn winch and to get it to stop slipping i had to run some heavy string through the strap and through the cable retaining hole on the drum. otherwise the strap would just slip and either it wouldnt lift the plow or it would lift it and then fall right back down
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-18-2011, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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the strap could be slipping on the winch drum. i swaped out the cable for the winter on my warn winch and to get it to stop slipping i had to run some heavy string through the strap and through the cable retaining hole on the drum. otherwise the strap would just slip and either it wouldnt lift the plow or it would lift it and then fall right back down
That is what I was hoping for at first, but the drum is definitely turning with the cable. I have one layer of cable and then attached the nylon strap to that.

Is it possible that the mechanical brake only works one way. Right now the line is feeding off of the bottom of the drum. I am not going to mess with it tonight, but I got to thinking that maybe the cable should come off of the top of the drum. I am not sure if that makes a difference, but maybe somebody has an answer.
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-22-2011, 12:27 PM
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Winch Brake

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Is it possible that the mechanical brake only works one way. Right now the line is feeding off of the bottom of the drum. I am not going to mess with it tonight, but I got to thinking that maybe the cable should come off of the top of the drum. I am not sure if that makes a difference, but maybe somebody has an answer.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure about being a oneway issue with your Winch Manufacturer (Check their website or call them to get right answer) However, I can say I run my MileMarker 2500lb from both directions and the Mechanical Brake has worked in both directions.

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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-01-2011, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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It should brake in both directions I am told. As I stated above, I had substituted nylon strap for cable seeing as the cable was snapping, binding and cutting into my rollers from the constant in and out of plowing. Today I took the nylon strap off and replaced with 10ft of cable. The plow stays up now. I still think that the brake is going out seeing as it will come down when I put my weight on it. It is good for now and we only have about 3 more months of plowing :(
I am hoping this one will last and I can replace it with a new winch with a better weight rating in the spring.
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